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		<title>Andreas Plank: +category</title>
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		<updated>2018-06-26T14:25:08Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Abfassung vorher&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Version vom 26. Juni 2018, 14:25 Uhr&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Zeile 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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		<title>Admin: 6 Versionen</title>
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		<updated>2012-05-24T22:15:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;6 Versionen&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Image:windbladepitch.jpg|300px|thumb|Windmill pitch adjustment mechanism from menelaos85 (Max)]]-&lt;br /&gt;
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From a Conversation, Jan. 2010:&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:28:39] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: Ok, tell me more about the 6 KW generator&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:32:27] menelaos85: the generator will consist of 15 coils and 20 magnet poles, each magnet 80x40x20 mm, 40 in total, resistance is about 3 ohms then, which gives an efficiancy of about 90 percent at nominal power of 6 KW, mere in lower power&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you making everything open source?&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:35:57] menelaos85: yes, i make it open source, of course...what a question ;-)&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:35:28] menelaos85: Generator parts cost about 2000 euros&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:36:33] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: Tower cost?&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:36:37] menelaos85: the efficiency will be a lot more tham those machines on fieldlines. com or otherpower&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:36:49] menelaos85: the tower will be 30 meters, made from streetlight posts&lt;br /&gt;
[21:37:18] menelaos85: I have no idea about those costs as i only build the turbine and rotor, but i guess about 1000 to 1500 euros, and it will be free standing, no ropes or wires&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:38:51] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: Do you know what grid intertie inverter you will use?&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:39:09] menelaos85: windyboy 6000, market price is about 3000$&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:40:52] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: Great. Are you making the blades?&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:41:42] menelaos85: they are ready made and cheap to buy, quite common here in germany, made by a german professor of wind egeneering - http://www.windenergie-technik-crome.de/ProfilCK220.htm&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:43:59] menelaos85: its about 50$ per meter&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:44:38] menelaos85: I have a calculation program for especially this profile&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:48:53] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: What do you do for high winds?&lt;br /&gt;
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see picture for blade tilt mechanism&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:51:31] menelaos85: It's all pure mechanics&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:52:12] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: Is it reliable for dealing with high winds?&lt;br /&gt;
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[21:52:25] menelaos85: Very, but not easy to calculate and build, and will take some time to make it work precisely&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:06:05] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: If you are at 300+ volts, will Windy Boy 6000 handle that voltage?&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:06:14] menelaos85: Yes, operating voltage is between 260 and 600V. Anyway...i will post all the details on the internet, so anybody can reproduce it&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:09:42] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: Yes. If you do a good job, that can be a major contribution to humanity.&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:10:14] menelaos85: i like the idea of people having the opportunity to get free knoledge&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:11:07] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: If you complete this and it works well , I would like to replicate the design here.&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:11:26] menelaos85: lets see how it works&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:11:49] menelaos85: it basically is not much different from the otherpower.com.- machines&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:11:50] Marcin Jakubowski, Ph.D.: It looks like $2500 in generator materials, $1500 in blade materials, $1500 in tower, $3000 in inverter - or about $1.5/peak watt if you don't count labor.&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:12:07] menelaos85: the highligt is the pitch regulation of the turbine&lt;br /&gt;
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See last project:&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:35:58] menelaos85: http://www.kleinwindanlagen.de/Forum/cf3/topic.php?t=2423&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:36:02] menelaos85: Menelaos...thats me. The 6 kw project will be here:&lt;br /&gt;
[22:36:26] menelaos85: http://www.kleinwindanlagen.de/Forum/cf3/topic.php?t=2665&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:36:37] menelaos85: The last one was 2 m in diameter only, but is working exactly as calculated&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:37:41] menelaos85: Pictures are on the last few pages&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:38:26] menelaos85: http://www.myvideo.de/watch/6923954/Scheibengenerator_WIndanlage&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:39:04] menelaos85: starts charging batteries at 2.5 m/s&lt;br /&gt;
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[22:39:12] menelaos85: i calculated 2.6 :-)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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